Alicia (00:02.502)
I'm so excited to welcome Marley Finnegan to the Boldly You podcast today. Marley is the founder of Purpose, Purpose Net Zero, The Blueprint, and Circular Future. She's a regenerative systems thinker, a sustainability expert, and passionate about and committed to the idea that to heal the outer, we must heal the inner. Marley, welcome to the Boldly You podcast.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (00:30.798)
Thank you so much. I am so thrilled and honored to be here with you.
Alicia (00:36.166)
I got full body chills when I was reading your intro, the founder of Purpose and Purpose Net Zero, which I want to talk about, and the Blueprint, which I'm really excited to hear more about. I've listened to your podcast as well, but I'm excited to hear you talk about it more directly. Just full body chills of all the, for lack of better terms, purpose -driven work that you've dedicated your life to.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (01:00.238)
Thank you so much. I received that and I'm grateful to, you know, I think I'm really grateful to have had the time and space to be able to figure out what feels in alignment for me, which largely came to me through the wildness of the pandemic and that space and time.
Alicia (01:17.19)
Hmm
Alicia (01:25.366)
Okay. Interesting. Okay, then you and I have a very shared experience and I'm excited to talk about that. But just for a little context for listeners, so you and I got connected through our mutual friend, Kristen Wohan, who was a guest on I think episode 10 or 11. And she shared her incredible story of an ego death and rebirth and shared
just really sage advice and wisdom around how to stop making decisions out of fear and scarcity. It was such a powerful episode. I got tons of amazing feedback on that one. And she turned me on to the Blueprint podcast that you two did together. And I know it's evolving and becoming, you know, there's a second iteration coming out of the podcast too. So when you reached out or when we reached out and connected to each other, I was so excited to dive.
more into your world and to hear your story, because I have a feeling it's a pretty profound and powerful one that led you to doing all of these incredible things that you've done and to creating the blueprint and hearing what's next for it. So do you want to start at the pandemic or do you want to start before the pandemic? Like that awakening sort of that you had, what feels, where do you want to start? Just share, yeah, share anything.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (02:40.462)
Yeah, I am. I'm here for all of it. So pre pandemic, I started getting really focused on sustainability within my personal life, but also within my career. And I've been in the events industry for almost 20 years and the events industry, obviously not highly known for sustainability, especially, you know, in 2017, 2018. And, you know, there have been people that have been doing it for decades and they have been leading in the space, which is
you know, beautiful, but around that time, you know, I started within my organization. you know, I was working for a larger Chicago based company at the time, but starting like a sustainability committee and really trying to take the lead, just like take the reins and do my own due diligence on figuring out like, how can we better orchestrate and be more mindful about our own operations? And essentially quickly thereafter, I realized like, if I want to really do this the way I want to do this.
having been in the business for, you know, at that time, 17 years, I didn't have anything sustainability related on my resume. I just started taking every certification course, like anything I could get my hands on. I started taking anything relative to both the events industry and just to sustainability in general, regenerative systems, thinking D growth, like really wild and amazing ways of thinking and concepts.
Alicia (03:49.638)
Hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (04:06.734)
and wound up taking over 200 hours worth of various education. So basically just created my own curriculum. And how this really started was in 2020, I was really getting into meditation. And I mean, I was spending so much time with myself, by myself, shattering, heart shattering, just breaking, crying, realizing a lot of things in my personal life were not what I had.
Alicia (04:13.606)
Amazing.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (04:34.926)
thought them to be and finding this sort of gap in what I was seeking. And, you know, I started reading a lot more books, getting a lot more into spirituality, you know, finding things like the concept of eternal energy and past lives. Like it was like these aha moments of things that I had, something I had searched my whole life for, like some deeper meaning. And then all of a sudden I'm like, wait, here it is. Wow. Thank you.
Alicia (05:00.838)
Yeah.
-huh.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (05:05.486)
And I had a vision of my then one -year -old child at 18 years old asking me why I didn't do more to help the earth. And so from that moment on, that was my, I could never unsee that, never go back from that. So that was the beginning of the complete unraveling of everything I did, both in my career and in my personal life. And
Alicia (05:21.605)
Hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (05:33.71)
in all aspects really, you know, at that time I was still married and that was also unraveling. So, you know, it's through all this introspection, it really started just this complete trickle down into everything and everything that I thought, everything that I touched. And so the true like spiritual awakening, I would say happened
Alicia (05:43.046)
Hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (06:04.59)
I had a friend, a good friend who's highly spiritual. Her name is Megan Taylor. She's amazing. And she was like, I feel really strongly that you need to talk to this woman, this medium, and here's her information. And at this time, the events industry was like unclear about were we going to have jobs? Were we going to have anything? Were we going to have any money? I was getting, feeling pressure from my partner at the time.
Alicia (06:25.574)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (06:33.934)
about money and I don't like to like live in that kind of scarcity mindset. And that was one major way that we sort of differed in generally speaking. But, so this medium, you know, obviously comes with a cost. And at that time I was just like, okay, maybe I shouldn't do this because of costs. So I wrote her back and I said, you know, I just, I'm not sure right now what's going on. And she said, whatever needs to come through for you needs to come through. So
Alicia (06:35.686)
Mm.
Alicia (06:43.11)
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (07:01.71)
You can pay me what you feel even if that's zero after we go through this. So I'm like, wow. Okay. Well, beautiful.
Alicia (07:05.35)
Wow.
Wow.
Alicia (07:11.686)
Such generosity, yeah. And she obviously felt something really important needed to happen for you. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (07:19.854)
And we had a two and a half hour zoom call. I was literally sweating, crying. Like every truth that I had been avoiding was coming out of the mouth of this woman in beautiful ways. And so I knew it was like affirming what I already knew about my marriage, affirming, you know, what I knew about my, what I'm, my purpose, like the greater calling of what I, what I feel in alignment that I need to be doing. And so,
Alicia (07:41.414)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (07:49.454)
The next day I took my child at that time, very young, on a walk, and it was a walk we did all the time. And we walked by the Chicago River, and all of a sudden I see what I think looks like a cluster of rope on top of a bush. And so I go, and I'm talking to my friend Megan about this experience with the medium, and I just, I stopped dead in my tracks, and it's three snakes in a ball with their heads on top of each other in a totem pole.
staring at me. My favorite number is three. And you know, I'm like, what is this? And at this time, I'm having a Kundalini awakening where every single blade of grass leaf on the tree, like I feel this extreme oneness with all things. This mystical experience with this medium made me realize that like,
Alicia (08:20.71)
Wow.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (08:44.142)
the unseen world and everything that I've been seeking with all these energies, spirits, you know, ancestors, how real it is and how I am surrounded by it at every moment of every day, just like everyone else. And this oneness overcame me. So I was just like so wildly emotional. But over the next, you know, I, I, I text the medium. I said, what does this mean? These snakes, you know, like, and she, you know, she was like, I don't really know Google it.
And it's of course a sign of a Kundalini awakening. The snake is associated with your root chakra and it goes up your body and literally ignites every chakra in your system. That's what a Kundalini awakening is said to be. And so over the course of a week, I saw 22 snakes and it was like, the snake was my spirit animal, my new, yeah. So that was really how the spiritual awakening began.
Alicia (09:17.158)
Wow.
Mm.
Alicia (09:34.502)
Everywhere, yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (09:43.566)
But really the alignment with my purpose, with the creation of these businesses was due to so much time spent introspectively through meditation, through journaling, through seeking conversation about all these wild, amazing subjects and also seeking healers and seeking various modalities of opening myself.
Alicia (09:56.838)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (10:12.942)
to spirit and to my own divine inner knowing.
Alicia (10:17.734)
Yeah. Wow. It's so incredible. I thank you so much for sharing that. I think I can tell that's very like personal and intimate. And I felt a lot of what you were sharing, especially what you said about the vision that you had of your child in, you know, 17 years at that time, 17 years from now, you know, crying and asking like, why didn't you do more for the earth? I mean, I think that's something we can if we all took the time.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (10:19.118)
So yes.
Alicia (10:46.63)
to think about is we can all relate to that in some capacity. There's a version of that that will be coming. So can you say a little bit more about that experience of having that clear vision? What was that like for you? And did you talk to your child about it afterwards? I know they were only one, but what conversations followed that?
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (11:12.59)
My child is, first of all, such a teacher to me and an amazing soul that I feel such a deep connection with. And my beliefs are around eternal energy. And I just feel this kinship, this kinship. And really, at that moment, there wasn't really an easy way to talk about it. And one thing I talk about in the Blueprint is
power of storytelling and how our subconscious minds really attach in our neural pathways. You know, stories are five times stronger in our neural pathways than data. So being conscious of the stories that I tell and, you know, not wanting to put those stories on my child as his truth, but like it's, it's my truth. But we do a lot of talking now about
Alicia (11:42.95)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (12:08.654)
mother earth about the various ways that, and you know, we live our lives. You know, we have a compost bucket every day under our sink. You know, we don't, I don't buy, I try to avoid all plastic. Like I don't have a lot of, I use it all reusable, everything, you know, my, it's, it's really like a top -down thing. So it's kind of natural for him, but we, I do believe, you know, that he's here.
for a similar purpose. And it's funny because I've intuitively felt that. And ironically yesterday had both of our human designs read. And are you familiar with human design?
Alicia (12:49.702)
Wow. A little bit, yeah, yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (12:54.03)
So it's like a version of astrology, but it brings in like I Ching and various Western and Eastern belief systems, but it's based on your moment of birth. And so him and I have the exact same, except for one channel, human design. And the woman was like, I've never seen this in my life. Like I've never seen two people that have a more similar design than you and your child. And so I think it's...
Alicia (13:09.958)
wow, wow.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (13:23.054)
It's interesting because I want to, I always want to be careful about putting things on him that are mine and just letting him, you know, be what he's going to be. But the vision was quick and it was, it was just what I needed, you know, it has lasted. It will forever last. I always kind of say it was a few seasons.
Alicia (13:40.134)
Yeah.
Alicia (13:43.686)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's such a cool, no, go ahead, sorry.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (13:50.574)
I just always, I always say like once you see something you can't unsee it.
Alicia (13:54.598)
Yeah, yeah, and something so powerful is that too. It's an exercise that I like to do personally and sometimes I offer it to clients and even friends, but it's just like, what do I want my children to be saying about me? Like when they tell their friends or when they talk to their friends or in the least morbid way possible, like at my funeral, like what do I want them to be saying and thinking about me? And that is oftentimes when I can visualize that.
it can course correct me into a way that serves my highest self or, you know, more purpose driven and especially as a parent. And so this is like another version of that where, you know, you're seeing this moment with your child and he's asking, why didn't you do more for Mother Earth? It's like, well, I really, the flip side is if I want to recreate that is, mom, thank you for doing so much for Mother Earth and for doing so much work and.
Now you're living in that and you're doing that and you're thinking about that in your career as well as in your personal life. It's amazing.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (14:57.07)
Thank you. Yeah. And I mean, honestly, that was it. That's the goal. Like the goal is just, obviously I think every parent wants their kid to be proud of them or like, you know, feel that pride around the work and the person that they're showing up as, you know, in the world.
Alicia (15:06.245)
Yeah.
Alicia (15:12.198)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so beautiful. And the concept of, you know, your purpose came from a lot of introspective time and inner work and the good hard work, as I like to call it. Like, it's so hard. It's some of the hardest work to do, but it's so profound and...
just incredible. So through journaling and meditation and conversations with, you know, with other people, spiritual people, healers, things like that.
Alicia (15:51.274)
What's the question I want to ask?
Why do you think you didn't, I'm trying to be really mindful and like, what is the down, I'm trying to get the download of what I wanna ask you. Why do you think it takes so long or so late in life? Not that either one of us are late in life, but I had my own version of this around age 33. It took me 33 years to really even do that introspective work. Why do you think it came to you at that exact moment? And why do you think it takes some people
so late in life to really have the dedication, the determination to do that really good hard work and that introspective work.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (16:35.278)
That is a really great question. And I think, you know, I think the universe is always trying to hint to us and our, you know, like our team, our guides, our energy are always trying to get us to, you know, awaken to the bigger picture. And by the bigger picture, you know, to me, that is like the unseen world. It is the world of energy.
Alicia (16:46.438)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (16:59.694)
But I mean, I, looking back, there were multiple things that happened in my life that were like huge wake up calls that, you know, I mean, going into 2020, I had one of my eyes completely swollen shut, like from this weird thing that happened. And, you know, it was like, I was like, can I even be in front of my child? Like, are they going to be freaked out? It was that weird and bad, but like things like that that were happening that were like,
Alicia (17:06.63)
Hmm.
Alicia (17:16.998)
Wow.
Alicia (17:23.59)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (17:29.006)
I was just like, please, like, just let me get through this, you know, like, and I think that, you know, so much of our society and our systems sort of exists to keep us in this separation from ourselves and our bodies. And so this, the systems kind of benefit from us purchasing things. They benefit from us purchasing clothes, you know,
Alicia (17:32.518)
Yeah.
Alicia (17:48.262)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (17:57.742)
things to look younger, all these various things that make capitalism run, but ultimately everything that we have and that we need is really within. So how can we, and for me, what I was doing was running from myself for a very, very long time, running from discomfort of like unhealed parts of myself that I really didn't want to look at.
filling my time with work, filling my time with then, you know, networking and business related things and things that I thought were, you know, validating me, but they really weren't filling me. And so once I stopped running from, you know, myself and the parts that I, that were really hard to look at and to see, and I allowed those things to crumble. And I mean, it takes time and it also,
Alicia (18:35.91)
Mm -hmm.
huh.
Alicia (18:46.25)
Yeah.
Alicia (18:53.286)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (18:54.478)
I really think you kind of have to feel all those unfelt feelings. And it's not that you have to go back and relive your trauma, but it's about, you know, tracing the trail back to where it begins to see yourself with empathy and see that version of you that didn't deserve that or didn't, you know, do anything to receive that. And that, you know, maybe that reaction and holding onto that anger, sadness or grief was just a survival maximum.
Alicia (18:58.63)
Yeah.
Alicia (19:08.806)
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (19:23.79)
mechanism at that time, you know? And then I think once we can bring those subconscious things to our forefront, it's easier to work with those things, you know, consciously.
Alicia (19:24.07)
Yeah. Yeah.
Alicia (19:34.406)
Definitely, definitely. Yeah, wow, to say once I stopped running from myself and allowed those things to crumble and then saw it with love and grace and understanding and empathy is such a gift to give to yourself and something that we all deserve. And it takes a lot of work. And one thing I like to do with clients is...
you know, when they come to me and they're having like a body, bodily reaction to something like a body sensation, that's from a reactive state, whether it be fear or doubt or whatever, I asked them to go back to the earliest memory that they have of that same body sensation. Like what, what's the earliest memory? And then usually it's like, a couple of years ago, I'm like, no, go back further. Like we're talking, you know, whatever, teens, whatever.
And then I ask them to paint the picture of that moment when they first felt that. And then I say, what is 45 year old you, talking to the client, what can you give to 15 year old you in that moment? What tools, how would you almost rewrite it? So it's not reliving the trauma or the thing that you've been, your body has been holding onto for years, but it's like almost rewriting and giving yourself the tools and the things that you now know.
that you needed that and then rewriting history and sort of, you know, it doesn't happen overnight, but just re -circuiting and rewiring your body system and your spirit from it. So it's, I've done it, it's really hard. I continue to do it. Anytime I know I'm in avoidance of something, I'm like, okay, I gotta, I need to address that and I'm gonna create some time for it. But it is hard, but man, on the other side of it.
so liberating, so freeing, and then the expansion that can then come once you've sort of released that is amazing.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (21:27.565)
I love that. I love that practice. I think that is so beautiful. And I too agree that you can actually rewrite the story, like physically rewrite it on a, on in a journal and a piece of paper and then you can burn it or you can do whatever feels right or you can keep it. And I did rewrite a story in 2020 that I had been holding onto for decades that just, and it was giving me regret. And it's like,
Alicia (21:38.758)
Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
Alicia (21:56.55)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (21:57.326)
this needs to be rewritten. Because if I would have followed through on that path, it probably wouldn't have worked out anyway. And that's where, you know, when you can follow the story, even in a very realistic way, like what would have happened next, you can remove all the, you know, the heaviness of that story.
Alicia (22:05.062)
That's right.
Alicia (22:12.582)
Mm.
Alicia (22:21.318)
Yes, yeah, it's so incredible. And then purpose can come through, like finding that purpose and like deeper meaning and you actually have the space and energy, like energetic energy to like really go after and live into that and not playing small from that thing that's held you back in the past.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (22:40.59)
Totally. I love that. Are you familiar with the Akashic Records?
Alicia (22:46.566)
No, tell me.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (22:48.366)
it's like said to be sort of like the soul's history. It's like an energetic history in the stars. And there were people starting as early, I think, as like the eighties that sort of use these prayers to channel into various people's records, to talk about all variations of, of yourself. And so I found this book, of course, in 2020, and it was from like the eighties. So I started doing the prayer for myself.
Alicia (22:53.638)
Mmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (23:17.326)
and just sitting in my room and journaling and crying. But it was some of the most profound and beautiful times. Now, I wasn't getting these major channeling downloads of myself, but I could see, I literally could see wavelengths of energy in the room. So I can see the energy come online when I get into the records and it's physically something I can see. But then the amount of...
Alicia (23:33.766)
Wow.
Alicia (23:42.566)
Wow.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (23:45.806)
Like I wrote poetry and just wrote and wrote and wrote and broke. Like my heart broke into a million pieces over and over and over. But the beauty of that experience was the pain. Like I think we're really here as humans to feel every feeling. And that's not to say like anyone deserves pain or anyone deserves trauma. It's nothing like that. But it's to say that like,
Alicia (23:48.294)
Mm.
Alicia (24:00.23)
Yeah.
Alicia (24:04.102)
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (24:13.39)
That is part of being alive and it makes you feel alive. And those feelings are some of my most cherished in a lot of ways because of the presence that I had.
Alicia (24:15.43)
Yeah. Yeah.
Alicia (24:24.038)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the learning that comes from it and the lessons and the beauty that can come out of those moments of deep pain and sorrow or grief and sadness. Actually, my daughters and I just watched the movie Inside Out last night. So good. And throughout the movie, it's like there's this character, Joy, who's the happiness emotion that represents happiness in our body. And she's just basically like, happiness is the only good one. There's no space for joy.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (24:40.718)
Yes.
Alicia (24:53.574)
sadness, there's no space for anything. And spoiler alert, I guess skip ahead if you don't want me to spoil the movie for you. But she basically by the end of it, it's like what what she realized was how much beauty came out of this little girl Riley that they all live in feeling sadness. And that her core memories required sadness and came from sadness, like when she lost a hockey match, and she was so sad, but like it was like her family then rallied around her and this foundation of
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (24:59.726)
I'm going to go.
Mmm.
Alicia (25:22.502)
familial bond came from the sadness. So it's not that we ought to be suppressing our sadness. It's in fact, when we give ourselves permission and allow ourselves to feel sadness, joy, I mean, sadness, pain, grief, sorrow, you know, any of those things, anger, we also can create more joy and more meaning and more liberation. And I'm like, my God, Pixar, you guys are like,
I'm crying in the middle of this like a movie, you know, so beautiful and representative of things that like, yeah, I'm feeling as like a 37 year old now, you know?
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (26:00.83)
my gosh, I think so many of those movies are channelings. Like they're so like Moana, Frozen too. And so they're just beautiful, beautiful messages. Yeah. I truly love, love what they're bringing to kids and to adults.
Alicia (26:07.782)
yeah, totally.
Yes, yes I know.
Alicia (26:19.654)
Yeah, yeah. It's good conversation to then have like my daughter was, she was crying. My youngest daughter was crying when like the imaginary friend fades away. And my five year old, she just turned five two days ago. She's like crying about it. And I said, yeah, it's really sad when you lose a friend, you know, like when your imaginary friend goes away and, and
Feel that and what you can also feel is remember all the joy and the fun times and that is why you're feeling sad was because there was so much joy. Anyway, it was just like really profound.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (26:53.646)
I love to say, and I, you know, I'd say this, and I think this is one of the things that I'll eventually be getting like a mom, please stop, you know, but I'm always like, we have to feel to heal. And so like, we feel all feelings. And I think for a kid too, like, you don't always want to feel your feelings or for an adult, it's much easier to not, you know, but ultimately I believe energetically,
Alicia (27:02.054)
Yeah, yeah.
Alicia (27:06.63)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Alicia (27:14.406)
I know. Yeah. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (27:21.87)
that our emotions, our energies, and without moving those through our bodies, that's how we can get stagnated energy. And not to make it scary or anything, but I mean, somatically, I was sexually abusing collagen. I went to this fascia worker and there was one touch and it was like, it went.
I went immediately back to laying on that table and like the abuse. And so, but it's just to me, it was such a testament of like the energetics of what the body holds onto, you know, out of survival, out of evolution. Like, you know, it's all in service to trying to save you and trying to protect you. But like, that is not an energy nor
Alicia (28:04.088)
Yes.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (28:20.046)
you know, anything that I need anymore and, and consciously have done a lot of work on, but like, there is still that body somatic subconscious element that is energetically, you know, it's harder to move.
Alicia (28:23.942)
Yeah.
Alicia (28:31.206)
Yes.
Alicia (28:36.038)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's the book, The Body Keeps Score, the concept around just like your body is always keeping score, your body is always telling you things, good, bad, and when we can really get in touch with listening to what those body sensations are telling us and being curious about it and pausing and then realizing is there something to work through here or not? And that's also okay.
but is there something there that if I worked through would be a release, something that could help support me in serving my highest self and my potential.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (29:15.822)
I did a medicine journey and I know that there's a lot of feelings about medicine journeys in general. But my experience was very topical around this. And it was essentially like my brain, my mind didn't really allow the medicine to take form or take over. I was like very just normally myself. And the message was...
Alicia (29:22.182)
Yeah.
Alicia (29:34.502)
Interesting.
Alicia (29:40.39)
Hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (29:41.998)
The message was really that the body is of Mother Earth. The body is divine feminine and that our minds are sort of attached to this patriarchal system of control. And even our minds, in my case, my mind had been controlling my body and what my body was allowed to do, how my body was allowed to act, what I was allowed to eat. And until that moment, I didn't realize the reverence and the wisdom of the body.
Alicia (29:54.502)
Hmm.
Alicia (30:01.734)
Hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (30:11.726)
what the body knows and how much really I think to sort of systemically, it's in service to separation from the body. Because our bodies really know, our bodies can give us a gut yes, like a yes and no. And that's a practice that I do with my child and my nieces and nephews is like, you know, have them close their eyes and then, you know, picture the happiest moment of their lives and picture the saddest.
And the only reason it's not like trying to be, you can do it in reverse order. So it's sad first and happy next, but like, so that they know in their body, what is a yes and what is a no. And they can use that visceral information for when they get older and they're like, not sure what to do.
Alicia (30:43.654)
Mm -hmm.
Alicia (30:56.23)
Yeah, yeah. What a cool, excuse me, what a cool practice that, you know, some adults never even master, but what a great way to like make that relatable for children and accessible for children is to just think about those highs and lows or those happiest and saddest moments to really be able to use that as a guide in the future.
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (31:21.198)
I did a Reiki course and like an energy course and it was astonishing because this woman did the same thing where she asked, you know, what's the happiest moment of your life? First, she started with sadness and basically she had two wire hangers and she'd walk at you until the hangers would literally turn out. So they would hit like your energy field and they would just swing. So the sad memory.
She got up to about three feet away from me and they opened. And then the happy memory, she was 15 feet away from me. Like the whole bursting energy that we like our auric field and what we are carrying and you know, and that's again, it's funny cause it's like, I never want to not want to feel the sad and feel those things, but energetically it's really wild to see.
Alicia (31:59.846)
Wow.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (32:19.854)
what it physically and how it affects us. And like when you hear the comment, like when someone walks in a room, like that's real. Like if your energy is in a, if you're in a high vibrational resonance, like that's a real thing that you're bringing to this environment.
Alicia (32:27.43)
Mm.
That's real.
Yes, yeah, it's your energy or aura, your just everything and people experience that around you.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (32:48.526)
Absolutely. Yeah, that's the first part of the blueprint. It's like all is energy. Everything's frequency, vibration, like, and we're all carrying, you know, at all times, this energetic state that we largely have been sort of unaware of, you know, in a true like consciousness awareness sense, I feel like for the majority of our lives.
Alicia (33:05.67)
Mm -hmm.
Alicia (33:11.206)
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, tell me and tell listeners what led you to create the blueprint and then we'll talk about what it is.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (33:24.206)
Okay. Yeah. So, you know, I launched my company's purpose and purpose net zero in 2022. And then, you know, over time, I just kept feeling this nagging knowing that I really am supposed to be doing something spiritual. Like I am supposed to be bringing what I know, feel, and have felt like my healing journey in
in a public forum. And so, you know, this healer that I go to, she recommended, I see this astrology, Robbie Carr. And so I had booked a session with him. It was November of last year, November, 2023. And it was incredible, amazing, wonderful reading. But the thing that came out of it was he was like, you are here to share your unique mystical perspective.
and I'm touching my third eye with the world. And so I already had sort of started the blueprint at that time, but I wasn't really sure where it was gonna go, what it was gonna be. And then Kristen, who you mentioned earlier, my best friend, she was going through a hard time, which she also described on, I think, a podcast. But basically she would call me like almost every night and kind of,
Alicia (34:22.022)
Mm -hmm.
Alicia (34:45.862)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (34:50.766)
me what's going on and I would kind of reflect to her like I feel as if like one of my intuitive gifts is like I can see sort of the best version of people like I think I see people like in all their integrity but also their like possibility so and so like I would just keep reflecting back to her like this like I think you know
Alicia (35:10.758)
Yes.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (35:19.374)
I feel like I'm seeing this. And so she just was like, you know, you see people's like highest blueprint. And so that was like how the name came about. And really like, I'm, I think the energy of like hierarchy is like old paradigm that that energy doesn't really survive into like the new version of what we're going into. And so, you know, I really am not about
Alicia (35:39.238)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (35:49.741)
like gurus are needing to seek something externally for your healing. Like I believe that we all have so much within, but it's really about, and not to say people don't need like help or a map or, you know, like assistance, cause you know, that's the way the world turns. Like we're all here to support each other collectively. But I believe fiercely, you know, I'm going through the journey myself. Like we talk about,
Alicia (36:03.974)
course.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (36:17.102)
you know, the journey of life as a circle. And then there's always down, you know, the bottom side of the circle and every, every experience. And I get on that bottom side of the circle. Like I'm a human, we're all human. We're all here for this emotional, you know, physical experience. but yeah, I just, I feel that it's important to also be real and be living it and be like honest about my own journey while in the journey. Like,
Alicia (36:37.898)
Yep.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (36:47.15)
that I hope is accessible. And then, so in my human design yesterday, she was like, your purpose is that you're a practical mystic. And I'm like, whoa, cool. Like, I guess that is what this blueprint is. It's like kind of trying to make these wild concepts and radical thinking like accessible and feel like actionable and attainable, but also like see the different methods that.
Alicia (36:49.574)
Mm -hmm.
Alicia (36:57.318)
Whoa.
Yeah.
Alicia (37:11.718)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (37:14.35)
that are out there for connecting to divinity and by way of divinity and like reconnecting to that yourself and your soul. And that's always there for you.
Alicia (37:23.558)
Yes, yes, it's so cool. I too believe that we all have within us everything that we need and that we have been and that we're born whole people and with the intuition and with everything that we need to guide us and through time and society and expectations and experiences that diminishes. And so when I work with clients, a lot of it is just
pulling back the cobwebs a little bit and really a simple framework. It's taken a long time to create it, but it becomes quite simple to help people get back to their inner knowing, access their intuition, releasing inherited beliefs that no longer serve them, questioning belief systems, making and choosing new belief systems, and then getting clear on what's actually important to you.
to the person, not what everybody else says should be important or is important or what society says is important. And that too came through my own lived experience. I felt like when I was 33, the only way I can describe it is that I just looked up for the first time. Like I had been going through the motions for my whole life and it wasn't bad. I don't ever want to paint the picture that it was negative, but it just wasn't authentic.
And I hadn't even until that point questioned anything really. It was just, I mean, I did, but then I was like, well, this is just how it is. And, you know, my parents would say, well, a lot of adulthood is meant to be sort of mundane and boring and this is what you do. And I just never even thought to question it, but I always knew that there was something just wasn't aligned for me, something that was missing. And so I remember in 2020 around the same period as you just like looking up for the first time and
thinking this isn't what I want my life to look like. It's not what I'm here to do. I'm here to have more adventure and to play more and to model that for my kids and for people around me and to serve others. I didn't know it at the time, but then it evolved into that and to serve others through my own lived experience, into finding their purpose and their...
Alicia (39:39.654)
most authentic version of success for them. So it's totally doable internally, and it helps to have like a framework, a guide, a structure of some kind to help navigate you through that and know what questions to kind of ask yourself, which is exactly what it sounds like. I mean, I've listened to the Blueprint, so I know, but that's exactly what the Blueprint is.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (40:04.654)
That's so beautiful. And I love that, you know, I love your approach to being in service to others. And I think, I think everyone has their divine inner truth and that divine inner knowing that, you know, that your soul is always with you and your heart is that part of your body that is truth. It's divine truth. It's like your heart knows, your mind gets confused. Your heart always knows. But I think that's also, there's like,
Alicia (40:20.358)
Hmm.
Alicia (40:25.35)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (40:32.942)
you know, our own inner truth can be different for everyone. And there's, I listen to a lot of spiritual podcasts or, you know, different thinkers. Not everything is my truth that other people think. And that's cool. And my truth doesn't have to be anybody else's, you know, truth. I'm sharing my version of truth. And that's where I think that, you know, sovereignty and discernment around ourselves. Like if this isn't true for you, whatever the situation is, no problem. And like, you can.
Alicia (40:43.334)
No, no, no. Yes.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (41:02.862)
We don't have to associate with that. But then also sovereignty and discernment around our energies. Because, you know, I believe, you know, our emotions, our thoughts, our words, our energy. And even though they might come from directly from like our subconscious or an experience or, you know, our conscious mind, you know, I kind of view the energies within our bodies and our minds as like separate things that can be worked with.
Alicia (41:09.446)
Hmm.
Alicia (41:32.23)
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (41:32.462)
But the energy, sometimes I'll have like a subconscious limiting belief creep in that is very much my own subconscious, my own thing that is still in there waiting for, you know, for the right moment. But what happens, and I believe, you know, this is where the unseen world becomes very fascinating and interesting and something that's irrefutable, but also not provable is like,
Alicia (41:44.39)
Yeah? Yeah?
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (42:01.454)
when I have those little pings, I'll be like, okay, like I see you, but then it like, it almost like all these other energies want to like glom onto it and equalize. And that to me is interesting because I feel that I discern, I'm like, okay, that one first thing was mine, but these other things are not. And that is where I sort of discern, okay, like I see you energies trying to get into my,
Alicia (42:22.502)
Interesting.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (42:30.638)
sphere and you know to give more context like I have seen physical energies in my life you know disembodied energies you know I have that like a touch of mediumship if you will like I do have familiarity with you know external energies and I do you know I have a lot of beliefs around those and I think
Alicia (42:40.906)
Come with it, yeah.
Alicia (42:47.398)
Mm -hmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (42:58.83)
giving yourself a little bit of grace and also just creating a sort of hyper awareness around what energies are yours versus maybe not yours. And also, you know, it's not meant to spiritually bypass. It's really just like the truth of the matter to me is that there's a lot of energies that exist in our lived experience. And so I don't take responsibility for every single one because what they can be used for
Alicia (43:23.878)
Hmm. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (43:28.206)
And even with this, you know, advertising and marketing is that they, they essentially become tools to create this vacuum of more inner criticism. you know, pointing it at ourselves, like, I can't believe I would think that it's like, okay, that thought was an energy. Was it yours? Was it yours? And the reason I say this is I was walking down the street last summer and I heard it'd be a lot easier if you weren't here.
Alicia (43:39.078)
Yes.
Alicia (43:46.534)
Right.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (43:56.366)
And that was not my thought. Like I don't feel that and I don't believe it. And I was either, I picked up someone else's thought or energy, or that was an external energy. Cause I wasn't having the best day trying to amplify.
Alicia (43:58.118)
No. Yeah. Wow.
Alicia (44:11.046)
Right. Yeah, amplify it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like I always, what comes up for me when you're sharing that is like, is there intergenerational stuff that is compound, like that we're sometimes pulling in, right? Are we pulling in our parents? Are we pulling in our grandparents' energies and thoughts and beliefs? Are we pulling in our ancestors' thoughts and beliefs too? Like is that, are those things penetrating or are they not penetrating but
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (44:16.142)
It's...
Alicia (44:39.045)
like are they attached in some way that we're then sort of like pulling in that isn't actually ours. And so that's to be, that's where the discernment and the curiosity and the wonder and not attaching to anything becomes really important. Like, hmm, okay, I wonder, is that mine? Like, could that actually be from my mom or my grandmother or my great, great, great grandmother? You know, I think that to me is really interesting.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (45:05.55)
Well, and totally. And I think our logical minds want to trace it to something. And the truth is like, there's no real telling, but at the same time, I think your point about attaching to it is the key because I think it's a, it's a, it's a, it's an inner truth situation. It's like, is this my truth? Was this is me? and I think this is an area where, you know, the psychologist, the scientists, whoever would
Alicia (45:10.822)
Right.
You can't. Right.
Alicia (45:19.878)
You're right.
Alicia (45:24.294)
Yeah. Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (45:35.022)
maybe want to hyper -criticize, I'm so sorry, these noises, hyper -criticize a concept like that, but there's no ancient indigenous wisdom, ancient indigenous cultures. I just listened to a podcast that really was talking about animism and the concept of spirituality and all these, everything we're talking about, but that the majority of human existence,
Alicia (45:55.59)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (46:04.91)
has been an animate belief system. If you put it on the grand scale of humanity, 90 something percent of time and people have believed in spirit and believed in, you know, mother earth and all the, you know, intricate interwoven parts. And so we actually in the Western culture and even just in the industrial revolution, this is new that we don't believe it.
Alicia (46:07.27)
Right.
Alicia (46:15.046)
Mm.
Right.
Alicia (46:33.67)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've detached from that ancient wisdom. We've made it very like mind, you know, like logic, proof, what can I see and facts and analyzing and data and it takes away from that sensing and that inner knowing that has been the guide for so many generations and generations. Yeah, wow.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (46:37.166)
you
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (46:58.862)
Right. And I think too, I feel like women are like stepping in, a lot of women that I know, I mean, are kind of stepping into just at least like an exploration of like, but also it's, I think it's so interesting. It's like endlessly interesting to conceptualize and like, this is an idea I find to be the coolest and kind of most fun to, you know, because it's.
Alicia (47:19.878)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (47:26.99)
it's endlessly possible. But yeah, I also think there's obviously been a lot of branding against mysticism in general, you know, from even, you know, the witches and all that is like, that label is so uncomfortable. And from what I've seen and heard is like,
Alicia (47:41.158)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (47:54.094)
witches were healers and they believed in the unseen. They did things with herbs, different than what a lot of us do today. So yeah, I'm not sure what was unsafe about that or if it was just.
Alicia (48:05.606)
Right?
Alicia (48:11.91)
Right, right. Well, it's just the unknown. Anything that's unknown and uncertain is questioned. It's scary.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (48:17.742)
Well, and not controlled, because they frankly were under their own, they were living on their own in the world and its own rules, you know?
Alicia (48:23.718)
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's no power when you can't control that. Right. Yeah. So interesting. So the blueprint is, so it's a podcast now. It's a nine or 10 part, I think, right? I'm trying to remember from when I looked back, it's like a nine part guided journey.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (48:30.03)
Right, right, exactly.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (48:44.057)
So yeah, it's a nine part journey. And then Kristen and I kind of interwove some just like conversational parts in, and now it's going to sort of, it's going to continue on and take different forms of like interviewing people and you know, all kinds of different things, but just kind of continuing the exploration of, you know, stories and helpful insights that maybe.
Alicia (49:07.014)
Mm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (49:10.19)
allow people to find some more grace and empathy for their experience and see the ways in which, you know, it doesn't have to, everything doesn't have to point at you. And I really believe once we find this sort of oneness within ourselves and this peace within our soul, we see all other aspects of earth, animals, other humans that are in the global south or, you know, in Africa, like these other.
Alicia (49:21.478)
Mmm.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (49:39.054)
places that are just the same as us, you know, that are, you know, the most likely to be affected by climate change due to our own, you know, due to the more privileged countries actions. So I think it's all very interconnected to the work that I do in sustainability. And just, again, like you said, it's
Once we can kind of heal within, I feel as if we see everything and we can take action much more easily with a lens of, you know, empathy for all.
Alicia (50:17.478)
Yeah, yeah. When we have empathy for ourselves and when we heal those wounds and those traumas and just all of it, we then have the space and capacity for more empathy and energy towards outer things, right? Whether it be people, the earth, anything, anything, you know? And when we're holding onto things and when there's unfinished business there, we don't have the capacity I feel.
to give what we all need to give so that we're not having conversations like you had the vision with your child in 17 years from now, you know?
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (50:56.462)
Yeah. And I think, you know, one quote in the part about all his empathy is like, you cannot fault yourself for doing what you needed to survive. And if you're in survival mode, even if you have like an on paper, very safe life, but you still feel these feelings or, you know, these pains that make you want to not visit that part of yourself, it is
Alicia (51:07.718)
Yeah.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (51:26.318)
You know, it's a constant method of like looking outside versus looking within. And the outside will never provide that peace that only you can give to yourself.
Alicia (51:40.198)
That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this mutual like two -way streak, like heal yourself so you can heal the outside and the outside. You don't need the outside to heal the inside. You've got what you need inside already.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (51:53.454)
Totally, I had a woman who kind of was like a little pushing back on the blueprint at first, because she was just like, why do we need more people focusing on themselves when we need to focus on the collective? And I'm like, I agree we need to focus on the collective, but I think that we become the collective when we are at peace with ourselves. And that, there's a lot even with quantum theory, we don't have time for that.
Alicia (52:14.278)
I agree. Yeah.
Alicia (52:22.534)
That's a whole other series.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (52:23.63)
Yeah exactly. my gosh, you are so beautiful. Yeah, you're beautiful. Thank you.
Alicia (52:28.07)
This is so great. Marlee, and to you. Thank you. Thank you for creating what you've created and for living so passionately and actively into your purpose and to what you're committed to. The world needs more people doing that. So thank you.
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (52:48.11)
Thank you and likewise, I'm so thrilled to know you and know the work that you do and I know all of the people that you touch in and connect with for your various modalities of work are receiving great benefit. So thank you for what you do.
Alicia (53:04.038)
Thank you. I received that as well. Okay. Take care. Be well and no doubt our paths will cross in the future maybe in Panama
Marley Finnegan, THE BLUEPRINT WITHIN (53:13.262)
I would love that so much. Have a good day. Okay, bye.
Alicia (53:14.534)
It would be so great. Okay, take care. Bye.
